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Really?

Submitted by Armed Infidel, Oct 27, 2010 22:53

As compared to Western values and ethics, there is no such thing as a "moderate" Muslim. Western values are based on The Golden Rule ( a unitary view) and critical thought, neither of which exist within Islam. Islamic values are based on authoritative thought as directed by the Koran and Sunna (Sira and Hadith). Either you are a Muslim or you are not. Either you are an apostate or you are not. Islamic doctrine does not allow for any gray areas or shades of Islam; either you believe that Allah is the one true god and that Mohammed is his messenger, or you do not. If you do not, then you are an apostate, not a "moderate." Islam cannot be "reformed" because according to Islam it is already complete, universal, absolute, and final. This means that it cannot be changed. So when a so-called "reformer" tells you they want to "reform" Islam, this is something they already know they cannot do - in other words this is sacred deception of the non-believer (kafir) in order to advance the Islamic agenda. What is the Islamic agenda? Total world domination and subjugation of all kafirs by forcing everyone to live like a Muslim of Medina in the 7th Century. This Islamic agenda has been around for over 1400 years and currently has over 1.4 billion followers worldwide whose mission is to wage jihad against the kafir wherever they may find them.

 

Moderate vs. Reformer

Oct 13, 2010 10:57

The distinction is that this group are really "reformers." They seek to actually change, reform and modernize their faith. Similar to what happened to many of the world's religions. Remember, many Muslims left Muslim majority countries because of religious persecution, as did Dr. Jasser's parents.

Moderates are a tricky bunch. They are non-violent, but many secretly advocate for the Islamists' agenda, or unknowingly advocate by their silence or delusion that these Islamists are actually "good."

As they say, actions speak louder than words. When "Former Muslims United" sent their Freedom Pledge to Muslim leader around the US, they got ONE signature back, Zudhi Jasser. Keith Ellison did NOT sign it, nor did Imam Rauf among others.... http://formermuslimsunited.americancommunityexchange.org/the-pledge/pledge-recipients/

I have reached out to Dr. Jasser and his organization, and after months of getting to know them, I can confidently say they are the real deal. People like him need to be supported, not vilified. They are sacrificing a lot by coming out and speaking against the Islamist agenda. And if you follow what they say, they are on the same page as many other Muslim and non-Muslims who are opposed to Islamism, Sharia law, etc......

 

i'm a non-believer

Submitted by vanzorge, Oct 5, 2010 08:42

i have much difficulty in accepting the notion of a "moderate muslim", as i believe that that is an oxymoron. a moderate muslim is something like a "moderate communist".

i am much more interested in the ex-muslim. you cannot have your cake and eat it too

 

If so - show me - I am from Missouri

Submitted by G McNeice, Oct 4, 2010 12:06

If these folks are as moderate as they purport to be - I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt - BUT AFTER THEY DO THE FOLLOWING:

Take us though the Koran and show us the latest writings and HOW THEY INTERPRET THEM since what I read is CLEAR JIHAD THROUGHOUT IT. How do these people pray and read it. THEY CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS - I JUST WILL NOT BELEIVE ONE OF THEM UNTIL I KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST NIAVE ABOUT ISLAM BUT THAT THEY REALLY ARE MODERATE ------------SHOW ME -------- READ THE KORAN AND EXPLAIN.

 

Now I Understand

Submitted by Jon Anderson, Oct 4, 2010 11:17

Until now I hadn't recognized the power that the TRULY MODERATE MUSLIMS could have in our resistance movement. As a daily blogger (harrisonburg-va.actforamericachapters.org) very much engaged in the resistance movement, I saw no hope of Muslims actually making a big difference. Thank you REP. SUE MYRICK!!! If these Moderates can get a hearing in front of national decision-makers and out the "Nihad Awads" along with their seditious agenda, I think there is hope - much hope - for the Truly Moderate Muslims to have significant, positive influence.

 

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