Expert on Radical Islam Fired from Pentagon

HANNITY: An Islamist expert at the Pentagon known for his hard stance against radical Islam was recently fired, and now his colleagues want to know why.

Stephen Coughlin was fired after a confrontation with one of the deputy defense secretary's aides, which ended with Coughlin being called, quote, "a Christian zealot with a pen."

The word from the Pentagon is that Coughlin was fired for fiscal reasons, but supporters of his think that there are ulterior motives behind his dismissal.

Joining us now from InvestigativeProject.org is terrorism expert Steve Emerson, back with us.

Hi, Steve. Walk us through what happened here, who he is, where his expertise was, and why you think -- what really went on here.

STEVE EMERSON: Stephen Coughlin has a background in law, international business, and a specialty in academic study of Islamic militant doctrine of jihad.

And what he did is to analyze documents, hundreds of thousands of documents that were released during the Hamas trial, the Holy Land case trial in Texas. He did an analysis of some of those documents that were not disputed which showed that there was a Muslim Brotherhood plan, a secret plan, designed to acquire influence in the U.S., undermine U.S. democracy, and to establish a caliphate. The Muslim Brotherhood plan was spelled out in a document that was introduced at trial.

Mr. Coughlin wrote a memo spelling out the implications of these documents and the profound nature of what would happen if the United States government decided to start doing dialogue and embracing the very organizations that were intent on undermining U.S. national security.

HANNITY: Steve, was there a point, and this is a point of contention, I know Bill Gertz brought it up in a piece that he put together on this, that he was asked to soften his views on Islamic extremism. In other words, they're saying it's about fiscal -- a fiscal reason for the firing.

EMERSON: That's a cover. The J-2, which is intelligence, said I can tell you this openly right now. The J-2, which is the intelligence wing of the joint chiefs, said he was a political embarrassment.

And the reason was because he had offended a top aide to the deputy secretary of defense, Gordon England, whose aide, Hisham Islam, I believe is an Islamist with a pro-Muslim Brotherhood bent who has brought in groups to the Pentagon who have been unindicted co-conspirators.

HANNITY: Let me get the broader picture here. So you believe that this guy is a foremost expert on the issue of Islamic extremism in the United States, and because he wouldn't soften his views, change his opinions or his rhetoric, he's being fired because there are people that are sympathetic -- you're making the case -- to radical Islam within our own government? Am I understanding that right?

EMERSON: Radical Islam, the jihadists, Global Civilization of Jihad - - that's a quote from the document released during the trial, has emerged under the guise of different organizations that have penetrated the U.S. government.

People don't want to believe it, but it's true...

COLMES: Hey...

EMERSON: ... and even these groups claim they're antiterrorism. They're not. They have an agenda. They're subversive, and -- let me just finish. The fact is that he didn't have a hard line. All he did was spell out what the agenda was of these groups, and his particular quote, and I'd just like to...

COLMES: We only have a moment left. We have a FOX News producer at the Pentagon who is reporting that we have spoken with people in the Pentagon who are claiming that the defense intelligence agency, they employ Coughlin through a contract.

And it was Rear Admiral David Dorset, director of intelligence for the joint staffs, who decided not the renew his contract for fiscal purposes. It had nothing to do whatsoever with Islam, the person you're fingering as being responsible for his dismissal.

EMERSON: You want to -- you know, they want to have a cover story. That's the cover story. The reality is a lot different. He was called a Christian extremist, a zealot. He had offended Hesham Islam, Gordon England, who has appeared before radical Islamic groups such as the Islamic Society of North America. We have videotape of this.

COLMES: That may be true, but that's not why he was fired. So you're saying that we're being lied to by the Pentagon?

EMERSON: His contract was not renewed. This is a cover story. The reality is his contract was not renewed because of the Islamic penetration of the Pentagon. And that the sad reality has affected DHS, the FBI, the department...

COLMES: When you say Islamic penetration, are you talking about just one person, or are you saying there's widespread penetration, people who want jihad against the United States working -- literally working in the Pentagon?

EMERSON: Yes. We know that from the trials of former military members who were brought up on charges for carrying out jihad.

COLMES: How could this happen.

EMERSON: We know they trained in the military. No. 1. No. 2, the chaplains who serve as the Islamic chaplains who serve were trained by a known terrorist.

COLMES: And they want to destroy the United States, these people working internally. It was like a fifth column in there.

EMERSON: You got it. In fact, there was an operation in the late 1980s called "Trojan Horse" by the FBI --

(Crosstalk)

COLMES: The government is lying to FOX News about it?

EMERSON: I'm sorry? The government lying -- I'm shocked, Alan. I mean, suddenly you're a believer in the government.

COLMES: I asked you a question. I don't always believe the government. Absolutely not. The same government told us the true about the...

(Crosstalk)

HANNITY: Thank you very much.

COLMES: Coming up, I'll look back at some of the suspense moments.

(Crosstalk)

Thank, you, Steve. Stay with us on "Hannity & Colmes"

Reader comments on this item

A must see video on how our politicians ignore our enemy, the Muslim Brotherhood

Submitted by Frank Livingston, Aug 23, 2015 08:47

"In 2012, TheBlaze released "The Project," one of the most important documentaries we've ever done! It exposes how Islamic extremists plan to infiltrate and defeat the West, and reveals the shocking documents being withheld from the public by the Department of Justice." http://www.theblaze.com/theproject

Sen. Burr (RINO-NC) will not hold hearings inb the Muslim Brotherhood! WHY?

Submitted by Frank Livingston, Aug 23, 2015 08:39

Democrats ignore our enemy! The RINO/GOP leadership/followers in the Republican Party refuse to hold hearings on our enemy! The useless media ignore our enemy! Here is an example: I have been trying since 2008 to get Sen. Burr (RINO-NC) and other politicians to request hearings on the removal of our subject matter expert (SME) on Shariah/Islamic law, Stephen Coughlin, DoD/JCS during Bush administration simply because an Islamist, a Muslim, Hersham Islam complained to "Gullible" Gordon England about the speeches Coughlin had been making and the analysis he wrote for the Holy Land Foundation trial in 2008.

Hesham Islam, a Muslim was a personal aide to deputy Defense secretary Gordon England and complained that Coughlin was a "Christian zealot with a pen" during a meeting, a slur rejected by Mr. Coughlin's supporters. Coughlin was telling hard facts that could save military lives and help us win the war against jihadists. Hersham Islam protested Coughlin's research made a connection between Islamic law and terror.

On February 10, 2010 I received a call from Sen. Burr's then chief of staff Chris Joyner who is now the staff director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in which RINO Burr is the chairman! I asked him if Sen. Burr would request hearings by the Senate Armed Service Committee Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities of which he was a member and I was told NO, it would not happen. When I asked why, he just repeated, NO, it would not happen!

Stephen Coughlin is warning us is anyone listening? Who is Stephen Coughlin you ask?

Stephen Coughlin a leading national security advisor and Islamic law expert explains how and why America is losing to jihadists in his new book: "Catastrophic Failure: Blindfolding America in the Face of the Jihad".

On page #12 Coughlin writes, "I had entered the Intelligence Directorate adhering to the traditional methods of analysis. Soon, however, I discovered that within the division there seemed to be a preference for political correctness over accuracy and for models that were generated not by what the enemy said he was, but on what academics and "cultural advisors" said the enemy needed to be, based on contrived social science theories."
It seemed the enemy was aware of this as well. Forces hostile to the United States in the War on Terror appeared to have successfully calculated that they could win the war by convincing our national security leaders of the immorality of studying and knowing the enemy." (snip)

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/catastrophic-failure

Who in DoD is deflecting conversation about 4GW?

Submitted by Frank Livingston, Aug 23, 2015 08:33

Our government was infiltrated by our enemy, the Muslim Brotherhood decades ago and implemented what they call their "Civilization-Jihad Process", a plan presented in the Holy Land Foundation trial in 2008 and was not contested in court or during the appeals process. Neither the House, Senate either Democrat or Republican will hold hearings on the Muslim Brotherhood and the plan they are employing within our government. Oh, their plan is working quite well by the way! How do we know this; because the media, House and Senate refuse to address the issue and review their Civilization-Jihad plan? Here is an example!

Who in DoD is deflecting conversations about 4GW?

Take time to read "The Changing Face of War - Into the Fourth Generation" by Lind, Nightengale, Schmitt, Sutton and Wilson published in the October 1989 Marine Corps Gazette.

"The first is a component of collapsing the enemy. It is a shift in focus from the enemy's front to his rear. Terrorism must seek to collapse the enemy from within as it has little capability (at least at present) to inflict widespread destruction."

Terrorists use a free society's freedom and openness, its greatest strengths, against it. They can move freely within our society while actively working to subvert it. They use our democratic rights not only to penetrate but also to defend themselves. If we treat them within our laws, they gain many protections; if we simply shoot them down, the television news can easily make them appear to be the victims. Terrorists can effectively wage their form of warfare while being protected by the society they are attacking. If we are forced to set aside our own system of legal protections to deal with terrorists, the terrorists win another sort of victory.

Highly sophisticated psychological warfare, especially through manipulation of the media, particularly television news. Some terrorists already know how to play this game. More broadly, hostile forces could easily take advantage of a significant product of television reporting — the fact that on television the enemy's casualties can be almost as devastating on the home front as are friendly casualties. If we bomb an enemy city, the pictures of enemy civilian dead brought into every living room in the country on the evening news can easily turn what may have been a military success (assuming we also hit the military target) into a serious defeat." [snip] https://www.mca- marines.org/files/The%20Changing%20Face%20of%20War%20-%20Into%20the%20Fourth%20Generation.pdf

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