A continuation of the conversation April 18, 2008 between defendants Daniel Patrick Boyd and Anes Subasic. The FBI summary can be found here. In this segment, the two discuss in greater detail their concerns about security and whether what they talk about might be of interest to the FBI.
Transcript:
Daniel Patrick Boyd
"When you speak the truth, the [UI] come. There's two of you, now my friend says he found maybe a third. So you stay the truth, yes I need your help. I asking now for you to help me to make a hikmat [Arabic] to put these three people [UI 2] good... [UI] we finish when Allah take us from this life."
Anes Subasic
"It take a lot of courage for you to choose normal and I don't know your status."
Boyd
"What?"
Subasic
"I don't know your status with the all your background and status with the FBI and things like that [First man: right] So when you open up this store and they know you're here you should know because if [UI 3-4] so much money and they don't know where he spend it"
Boyd
"Not just money, but they don't know who."
Anes
"Right, so in your store actually when you talk about, you know whatever. I mean, real, something serious, you just don't talk. You know? And just, this is, you know, not the place to do that."
Boyd
"Ok, I accept it."
Subasic
"So, my phone, safe or not, but your store is probably not safe, is not safer than any phone."
Boyd
"I would say that definitely it is not."
Subasic
"Yeah, so, you know that, I'm just telling you because I don't know how they treat you, but …"
Boyd
"I'm telling you."
Subasic
"I know if I am going to talk in my car somewhere I can guess I cannot be sure but I know my level, you know, who I am and what I am and what I can be up to and say …"
Boyd
"[Arabic] You speak the truth."
Subasic
"The other thing, I know you asked me once, but as soon as you give me something, as soon as I give you something or something that they don't like, and that they can put on the paper [First man: Yes] and prove, you know, prove that we are not anymore just brothers who like to see each other. And if you have me, and I have you and if somebody of them know something about this and they can prove it, by the word, by listening, by the paper, by anyhow how may we have something that is not any more safe. That must be, that must be done right 100%, and must be planned best we can."
Boyd
"[Arabic thanks]"
Subasic
"So when we talk about boys and things I know some brothers that I deal for longer period of time, in any terms, and I trust them because it went through many phases [In background man says "unbelievable" twice]. So whenever I come to you, when anybody or you come to me, I trust you. Allah knows that I trust you."
Boyd
"This I understand."
Subasic
"But, there is things that we to put it, and we are safe, ok. If he helps me with whatever, that I will help somebody, if it's safer and I can do with the other brothers that I know for 15-20 years, and deal with them hundreds of times, a thousands of times, say, ok should I take that risk to open up a new front here, a new front here, and I have the same thing in the middle that goes straight and it's safe."
Boyd
"Yes of course."
Subasic
"You know what I mean?"
Boyd
"Of course."
Subasic
"So soon as you get something from me, and I get from you, we are not any more on the same level."
Boyd
"My [UI] for that is that no, you don't. You should stick with what is for sure and open now, Alhamdulillah [praise to Allah], but know that mine is not open now."